Omkar Vegan Talks

2025-11-15

So today I finally had talk with omkar regarding vegan and my question was why even after having enough resources in terms of money why don't you participate in veganism? So the final answer was boiled down to it's all about conveniency, morals, perception and societal conditioning as everything sums down to net zero.

And never get influenced by external personal morals by replacing your own morals that takes away your identity, but then

1. don't you care about climate/ environmental causes and carbon emissions?

2. don't you have empathy when you see animals getting killed, abused and exploited?

• don't you feel bad when you exploit a mammal mother for her milk and keeping calves for starving? I didn't include about health because I knew that health can be easily be maintained easily with or without vegan so that wasn't a point of conversation as I myself was convinced for that matter. Like growing healthy chicken, healthy fishes or organic plants.

1. See this can be very subjective when you discuss that animal farming lets say chicken farming creates lot of carbon emission and pollutions, but then it also can be said don't travel by vehicle travel walking, and when you look at any celevrity they use jet engines to travel which can be done by other mode of transport, which bringa us to the point that it's about convenience that makes us take that decision like jain people will wear mask to avoid killing germs but they are killing so many bacteria inside their body everyday, and wearing mask also killing germs by not allowing them going out. And we can also argue one shouldn't use shoes, sandals and should walk barefoot, should build houses leave under tree, and wear tree leaves. So even if you don't go to extreme ita abiut convenience people. Choose based on the morals or percepti9n they have for someone bare minimum to have can be scooter for someone it can be bmw car.

2. So it's not like there is no empathy for animals but it's also more about empathy in a larger sense the plants also do get hurt when you pluck fruits and veggies and it's also proven by some scientist, that pla nt do have emotions it's just that it's not visible or we are evolved to understand it thatsall, see we have been evolved to understand facila expressions or emotions and get to knoe if you should be engaging with a person or not based in is he angry or happy etc.. assume lets say an alien comes to earth tomorrow and because it has not been evolved to tk understand human expressions they will. Be like ok they have 2 eyes, 1 mouth, 2 eats that's it so how plants are for us now the humans will be similar for the aliens as well, people just don't care about because of the no visible blood and outcomes of that pain directly by their eyes based on the evolution or societal codnitioning which is done.

3. This is a both side win because if they were not helpful for humans, human would not have breed them and lot of cattles would have been the dinner of predators, and they could have been always li ing in high lawrt getting scared hy every movements and running to save lives, but when they are with humans at least they are living an life and not extinct. And when talk about exploitation where injecting productivity substances into animals These same thing goes to plants as well like the actual banana used to be so small and full of seeds but scientist modified the genetics to get the long seedless banana we have now. So if this banana wasn't helpful it would have been in forest knly but it's useful it's getting farm similar to the animals. Another exa.ple when you see wolf which is closest pre evolution of dogs which have so less lifespan but then because the dogs are able to make into hhman society they live longer than the wolf. Same with goat. Same with chicken, pork, buffalo everything.